We have kept working on the new logo and visual profile for PRIO, following the staff meeting in late November. The feedback from this meeting was very constructive, and pointed Agnete and me in new directions. We first tested several varieties of the symbol now commonly known as the ‘angry man’, but softening its strokes made it quite powerless. Inspired by the staff meeting ideas, we then moved on with alternative ideas. We have worked hard, at strange hours, and have received valuable input from Inger, Scott, Andrew, Halvor and Jørgen C. at different stages in the process, commenting on various sketches pointing in different directions.
The ambition now is to launch a possible new "PRIO look" with the Annual Report. But it is also clear that the option of 'no change' is still there, although I must admit it is not my preferred end state.
Now I'd like to present to you the three last sketches, and explain the choice I would prefer to proceed with. This process will not move forward until Saturday, so you may send me your comments in the next three days, either publicly as a comment to this blog post, or privately to my email inbox. Whether you agree or disagree, I very much welcome your input!
In these sketches, please do not put emphasis on the colors presented. In the process, we have so far set the color aside, and concentrated on the symbol. Even for the symbols, see the current representation as an idea that in a final version is likely to look quite different.
Here is a suggestion that you will not recognize from the earlier stages of the process. It is a symbol that represents both a P as in Peace and a D as in Dialogue, and 'built' as a talk bubble. The idea has to do with communication between opponents as well as researchers' communication with each other and society.
Preliminary verdict: The ideas behind, and the logo itself, are very good (It has grown with me over the past few days). But not for PRIO. The human element is missing, and even though communication is at the core of our activities, our ways and means of communicating are not best symbolized by talk bubbles. I think it is such a great idea that I hope somebody else can use it.
This suggestion is a direct response to the point voiced by several people in the November staff meeting: 'Look to the good old jellymen'. A return to the trio, and to humanity, underscored by the protecting arm.
Preliminary verdict: This is certainly human, but too formal and restrained. We felt (independently) that this could be a great logo for a recruiting company for health care services. Nice. But not PRIO.
This last suggestion is also the newest, and least processed. But maybe therefore, also the most mature as 'basic idea' after a rather intense process. It is rooted in the same ideas as the above trio, as well as an idea of PRIO identity and the importance of the individual and the written in our everyday work: a human trio presented with a ‘calligraphic line’ (a reflection on the 'handwritten signature', which conveys timelessness and seriousness). And since this is what I want to proceed with, I'll emphasize what makes me feel this way:
- The symbol offers an obvious handshake to the jellymen and thus, PRIO history and identity
- The symbol is clearly human
- The symbol makes me think of writing
- The symbol makes me think of the meaning of the individual researcher (signature) in building a meaningful collective (3 means many = PRIO)
- The symbol has a timeless and cross-cultural ambiguity to it (this can be further nourished)
The symbol is not quite 'ready' and needs considerable work, but I believe it has a great potential, also as a basis for useful complementary symbols (2nd and 3rd design elements, in designer speak).
Now I eagerly await your comments. I expect them to be both direct and constructive, just as the ones you made in the November meeting!
I agree. Please push forward with the joined jelly-men. I would like to see the new logo linked even more strongly with the old PRIO logo while keeping the emphasis on the inter-connectedness symbolized here.
ReplyDeleteAgree! (where's the 'like' buton?) It also makes me think of interaction and a 'full circle' with every meaning one can put into that. Everything begins and ends with the individual etc..
ReplyDeletei feel that a version of #2 would be the best of the bunch, although I agree that in its current format it looks too corporate. #1 looks a bit like a wordpress / twitter feed site logo (and will look dated in 1-2 years), and #3 is a bit too abstract and messy - I think of wine bottles when i see that logo, not humans.
ReplyDeletealso, has there been any more consideration of hiring a professional design company to give us some additional options?
and once we've decided on a logo to go ahead with, it might be a good idea to offer several different fonts for the 'prio' text as well in a new blog posting.
I agree with Kristian and Scott. The first looks a bit like a gas station logo to me. The second is better in that it has the interaction from the old 'jellybabies' logo, but to me it suggests a bowling alley. The third is very promising.
ReplyDeleteI am concerned that option 3 is impossible to replicate by hand, and that people will rather think of an entangled knot- a little like calling folkehjelpen "flokehjelpen".
ReplyDeleteOf the three I like the last one best. Though a concern is that it might feel a bit light, given that it has such thin lines and so much "air". This I guess will be most apparent on letterhead, business cards etc.
ReplyDeleteShould perhaps do a quick test without showing the other alternatives to see if everyone sees three persons - or something else.
I concur with others in singling out the third option as the most promising one, for two reasons mainly: First, it represents a continuation rather than a break with the xisting, which i think is important. Secondly, it is packed with easy-to-spot symbolism, and can hence function as a visualisation of PRIO's vision and strategy.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, i think the organic lines will require a very strict style in the accompanying text, to avoid a feeling of chaos. The current version has that, and i think thats why it works.
Otherwise, it could add that the first association i had when i saw it was the previous version of the Posten logo.
My first thought was that the third option might actually be worth the cost of changing the logo to (it always costs more than planned, when changing a logo). I simply liked it.
ReplyDeleteI agree, I like the third best. The first is far too anonymous and the second a bit conservative.
ReplyDeleteI like the third but echo some of the other comments. The danger is that it might be too insubstantial when scaled up and put on a letterhead or outside the building. Perhaps it might be possible to tweak it a little - such as by thickening the lines?
I agree with you Kristian on the third option. The two others in my mind are completely horrible and should not be considered. The third one needs a bit of work, and I think they could be even more inspired by the original gellymen. As for colors, I would recommend staying off orange and brown and keep with shades of green, blue...in short some variation of the present design manual.
ReplyDeleteThanks to all for your thoughtful comments. Most of the comments are supportive of the third option, many have good ideas for modifications. Some are not supportive, either being sceptical to all these options, having a different favorite or a strong preference for maintaining the current logo.
ReplyDeleteMy sense is that after quite a bit of back and forth, we now have an idea that may deliver. Option 3 in its current version is by no means there, and we have met with the designer to convey what we would like to see differently. We have already seen sketches of a modified version (thicker lines; more space between lines; sharper edges in its the bottom half), but it needs further refinement. The process moves swiftly, the ambition is that a new logo (if at all) shall be ready for the annual report.
I shall keep you posted.